3/8/2010 4:56:27 AM
jannie
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Hello Forum
The question is this : in 1 Cor. 4:9 we read : for i think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.
The word last in Greek is : eschatous . This means, as far as I know, last. Last in the sence of there is no new apostles after Paul. Paul was the last one.
I would appreciate your comments
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3/9/2010 5:54:25 AM
chipper
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jannie wrote:
Hello Forum
The question is this : in 1 Cor. 4:9 we read : for i think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.
The word last in Greek is : eschatous . This means, as far as I know, last. Last in the sence of there is no new apostles after Paul. Paul was the last one.
I would appreciate your comments
Hi Jannie!
I think we can find how "last" is being used in this passage by looking at the context beginning with vs. 1 of chapter 3 and at vs 6&7 in particular. ( And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another 7 For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?), reminds us that the Corinthians were dividing over which 'leader' was better! Paul is telling them not to be puffed up, exaulting one man over another. His use of "last", refers to the position God gave the apostles...as in "far from being exaulted, we bring up the rear". Ultimately God will judge who is first or last. (5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.)
HTH! chipper
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3/16/2010 7:09:18 PM
No Leaks 2
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Hi Jannie:
Although I agree with Chipper that we are NOT to elevate Paul, for even Paul himself says that he does NOT magnify himself, but rather his OFFICE.
Romans 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
You ARE reading it correctly, jannie. Paul WAS the last apostle, and is THE apostle of the Gentiles. I believe that the revelation of the mystery which was given to him closed out the progressive revelation from God, and completed the scriptures. Therefore, no more apostles would be needed, for we now have the completed word of God.
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O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? Rom 7:24
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3/17/2010 4:44:34 AM
jannie
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Thanks Chipper and No Leaks for your comments.
Jannie
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5/30/2010 1:16:02 PM
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Walker-sbg
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YES, Paul was THE Apostle of the "Gentiles" [greek 'ethnos', translated: gentiles, nation[s], heathen, people]. The Scriptures make record of at least 5 other APOSTLES that ministered with Paul of whom were his co-labourers "apostles" in the sense of their being
recommended by God as associates of Paul, NOT in the sense of their being one of those who had SEEN the resurrected Christ.
Andronicus, Junius - ROM.16:7; Barnabas - ACTS 14:4, 14; Timothy, Silas - 1st THESS.2:7.
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