8/8/2010 9:37:38 AM
Topic:
Bible feature
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Jordan Marr
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No Leaks 2 wrote:
BOY! I am getting to the point where I absolutely LOVE the Bible feature! When I am on other sites, or need to look up something for myself, I come here, and simply type in one key word, and find the scripture that I need! When using them on another site, I simply have to highlight, copy, and then paste it on the site where I need the reference! It's awesome! I really have come to appreciate it, and thank the Lord, and you good brothers and sisters for having it here for our use....
Thanks to our moderators!
Darryl
Darryl,
Glad to hear that you are using it!
You man know this already, but if you evern want to send a URL to a specific passage, you can include a verse or verse range that you want to be highlighted:
http://www.welcometograce.com/Bible/KJV/Philippians/4/4-8
Jordan
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8/7/2010 10:27:28 PM
Topic:
Bible feature
No Leaks 2
Posts: 16
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BOY! I am getting to the point where I absolutely LOVE the Bible feature! When I am on other sites, or need to look up something for myself, I come here, and simply type in one key word, and find the scripture that I need! When using them on another site, I simply have to highlight, copy, and then paste it on the site where I need the reference! It's awesome! I really have come to appreciate it, and thank the Lord, and you good brothers and sisters for having it here for our use....
Thanks to our moderators!
Darryl
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8/7/2010 10:21:48 PM
Topic:
Prayer
No Leaks 2
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Hi Andrea,
You know, I just can't knock anyone that has a regular prayer life, because of my nearly non-existant prayer life! I mean........ I talk to the Lord, you know? But as for getting down and really pouring my heart out in prayer for others, I am extremely weak in that area. It shames me, but I never seem to do better......
I do know what you mean, though. I guess when the principle of rightly dividing the scriptures is missing, it affects even a person's prayer life. You can not bargain with God, that is very true! Even before I knew about rightly dividing, I think I was too afraid to try to bargain like that, knowing that we should not tempt the Lord.....
Interesting post...... just another area that shows the basic need to rightly divide the scriptures, huh?
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8/7/2010 10:13:43 PM
Topic:
The Failure to Rightly Divide
No Leaks 2
Posts: 16
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What a shame and a tragedy it is..... mainstream Christianity, in nearly every "denomination", simply fails to rightly divide the scriptures. Most of them have no idea what it even means to rightly divide, and even after you try to explain it, many refuse to see.
Many years ago, Pastor Cornelius Stam was quoted as saying "The failure of the church to rightly divide the word of God has wrongly divided the Body of Christ". Boy, truer words were never spoken!
In trying to "make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery", I always try to center on those "lightbulb" moments, when well-known verses in the scriptures suddenly make sense, once Paul's principle of right division is applied. So many times folks will ask about something written in the Bible, most often concerning miracles, and how it is that nobody seems to be able to reproduce any of them. Amputees are most often cited. I attempt to explain the difference in the dispensations; what the signs, miracles, and wonders were for; and then challenge them to find any miracles after God casts Israel aside in Acts 28:28. I still catch a lot of fleck about it ((sigh)).
Every once in a while, though....... someone will listen close enough to "get it". It always makes me feel good when this happens, because another person gets freed from "churchianity".......
I directed a 44 year old sister in Christ to this website, and some others where she can learn the basics of right division, and hear some of Pastor Crist's sermons here. She promised to check it out, after assuring me that what I was saying made sense to her.......YAY! Before that, she had doubts that she was even a Christian, because of the mixed doctrines that she had so often heard in churches where she had attended service.
It is times like this, when someone sees for the first time, that make up for the times when the accusations of being a follower of Paul, rather than Jesus, are voiced......... even though we do follow Paul, as he follows Christ!
I praise God for having been shown the path to the truth that comes when one rightly divides the word of truth!
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8/6/2010 4:14:10 PM
Topic:
Prayer
Andrea
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I always find it difficult to talk to mainstream Christians about prayer. They usually think that our circumstances are a reflection of how well they are doing spiritually. I am so glad there are pastors like Curt out there preaching Paul's distinct message of God's grace for today. I remember one Bible study Curt led on prayer and how we can't bargain with God. It made so much sense. That is what many Christians are doing when they pray, they think they are going to get God to do something that He wasn't already going to do.
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5/30/2010 1:16:02 PM
Topic:
the apostles last
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Walker-sbg
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YES, Paul was THE Apostle of the "Gentiles" [greek 'ethnos', translated: gentiles, nation[s], heathen, people]. The Scriptures make record of at least 5 other APOSTLES that ministered with Paul of whom were his co-labourers "apostles" in the sense of their being
recommended by God as associates of Paul, NOT in the sense of their being one of those who had SEEN the resurrected Christ.
Andronicus, Junius - ROM.16:7; Barnabas - ACTS 14:4, 14; Timothy, Silas - 1st THESS.2:7.
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4/25/2010 7:05:36 AM
Topic:
New WelcometoGrace website!!!
Jordan Marr
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pamruski wrote:
Wow Jordan, the video page is great. I'm not always checking the website out...been a little busy...smile
Trying to go back and add notes to videos...I'm always bugging Curt to write...Guess this a way
to get his words in writing. Curt and Debbie are suppose to be stopping by our home Thursday
looking forward to their visit. I can show them first hand the capabilities of youtube
I think that the YouTube site was a great idea. It really is an ideal way to host the WTG video content.
Jordan
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4/25/2010 6:28:14 AM
Topic:
New WelcometoGrace website!!!
pamruski
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Wow Jordan, the video page is great. I'm not always checking the website out...been a little busy...smile
Trying to go back and add notes to videos...I'm always bugging Curt to write...Guess this a way
to get his words in writing. Curt and Debbie are suppose to be stopping by our home Thursday
looking forward to their visit. I can show them first hand the capabilities of youtube
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4/24/2010 8:59:54 PM
Topic:
New WelcometoGrace website!!!
Jordan Marr
Administrator
Posts: 21
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Pam,
I added a video page to the site that retrieves the videos you have posted in your youtube site. The cool thing is that now you can indirectly add content to the site - ie when you add a video it will be referenced here:
http://www.welcometograce.com/video
Jordan
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4/24/2010 3:59:41 PM
Topic:
New WelcometoGrace website!!!
Jordan Marr
Administrator
Posts: 21
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pamruski wrote:
Sample of one the youtube uploads....I'm trying to add notes to the uploads.
Pam,
I do post some of the news items, although the ones in ALL CAPS are posted by Debbie. I will update the URL for youtube.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Jordan
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4/24/2010 1:31:10 PM
Topic:
New WelcometoGrace website!!!
pamruski
Posts: 5
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Sample of one the youtube uploads....I'm trying to add notes to the uploads.
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4/24/2010 1:30:00 PM
Topic:
New WelcometoGrace website!!!
pamruski
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February 24 2008 Bond Slave No 67-4
http://www.youtube.com/user/GraceAboundedMore#p/c/0008D73FF541B7C6/3/rQ37UYcMPGY
Curt Crist www.welcometograce.com
Give Up Serving Self and that will be the best service to self you could ever give yourself. Why, because you will find true freedom and joy to be the ultimate result. Give up serving self and serve others.
We can learn one thing for sure. Overcoming Addiction does not come through the commitment to stop serving the addiction. The more effort you expend in that area the more over-whelming will become the desire for that to which you are addicted. Overcoming addition comes only through the commitment to be addicted to something different.
Paul found that something else. Did you ever think about Paul as being addicted? Paul was a tremendous addict. He had an over-whelming addiction. He was addicted to serving Christ, therefore, to serving the body of Christ.
Philippians 1:1 Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:
"All" is an Extremely important word. Think how many times Paul uses the word "All" in this short little 4 chapter epistle.
Philippians 1:1 all the saints
Philippians 1:4 in every prayer of mine for you all
Philippians 1:7 it is meet for me to think this of you all
Philippians 1:8 I long after you all
Philippians 1:9 in all judgment
Philippians 1:13 all other places
Philippians 1:20 all boldness
Philippians 2:14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
Philippians 2:17 I joy, and rejoice with you all.
Philippians 2:21 For all seek their own
Philippians 2:29 all gladness;
Philippians 3:8 count all things but loss... for whom I have suffered the loss of all things
Philippians 3:21 he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding
Philippians 4:12 being instructed in all things
Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Philippians 4:18 I have all, and abound: I am full,
Philippians 4:22 All the saints salute you
Philippians 4:23 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.
When Paul mentions the saints in Christ Jesus, there's an important point we need to make. Be careful to never confuse "Standing and State". Paul's giving up positional truth here in verse one.
Standing = how God views you 'in Christ'
perfect righteousness! Saints!
State = your experience through time on earth
Standing is what God's made you to be and what you can never cease to be in his eyes.
State has to do with how you're taking advantage or not taking advantage of that God given position that's everlastingly yours by God's decree.
Standing is your position in Christ wrought by God in grace for eternity.
State has to do with your experience in time on earth.
YOUR STANDING IN CHRIST IS NOTHING LESS THAN PERFECT. The very righteousness of God himself attributed to your account when you're joined to his perfectly righteous Son. So, your standing in Christ is nothing less than perfect. It will never be anything less than perfect.
Your state can be deplorable. An example would be the saints at Corinth. Sounds like an oxymoron when you understand that assembly. The Corinthians experience, another wards their behavior their conduct, was despicable. They were bond slaves to self, carnal or fleshy orientated. At the same time their standing couldn't of been better. Carnal was their state. In Christ was their standing. In God's eyes these saints were being preserved blameless in their positional standing in Christ until The day of Christ.
Just be careful never to confuse standing with state. Scripture through Paul distinguishes between the two. So, we should be careful to make the distinction in our own thinking that God makes in his teaching.
God has given us a perfect standing in our union with his perfectly righteous Son. He's also made provision for us now to have an ever improving state or experience. It's called growth. It's called maturing. It's called growing up into him into all things unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: (Eph 4:13) It's what our growth is all about.
There are people out there who believe they can lose their salvation because they've totally confused with their position in Christ with their state.
Philippians 1:2 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
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4/24/2010 1:27:47 PM
Topic:
New WelcometoGrace website!!!
pamruski
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www.youtube.com/user/GraceAboudedMore
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4/24/2010 1:27:05 PM
Topic:
New WelcometoGrace website!!!
pamruski
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Hi Jordan. Are you the one putting the announcements up on Curt's "Welcome to Grace" website? If so, instead of saying search Curt on youtube.com.....could you put www.youtube.com/user/GraceAboundedMore That will take people to the channel were they can access whole lessons by clicking on playlist. I've had saints say it very confusing and they don't understand how youtube works say it's very confusing. When you just do a search on youtube it mixes all the parts of different lessons of Curt. Thanks for any help you can give.
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4/6/2010 11:40:07 PM
Topic:
New WelcometoGrace website!!!
robert
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Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Here we have a person he loves God, he knows what love God has to him trough the truth of Jesus Christ the Father's son crucified for him, this person loves God so much yet he does not know how, he spends the whole week busy with the things of God, reading his bible, learning from the Holy Spirit and of truth, he has no solid evidence though but does believe, learning wrong from right, God's will from his own wicked will, he hates himself at times to the point of utter abhoring if even for a minute or for two, he hates not his spirit; but his flesh and all it's worldy lusts, he arbhor that which he does that is evil in the sight of God his Father according to the knowledge given him of good and of evil by the living word of God, he hates himself for he to himself seem not to stop sinning and does know his God hates sin, he trembles; but he also knows that God loves him and have loved him enough to give him his own Son to die in his stead even from before the world begun, and God has raised Christ from the dead to assure him his heart before his God in Christ by the spirit of truth that is in him, he is praying everyday, he does not know what to pray for always or how to pray; but sometimes at times very seldom times he does utter some words that he can understand then his flesh rise for a moment and try to boast in this prayer that he make; but by God's grace the love of Christ does subdue this pride and bring it unto the Son of God's obedience, this is the spirit of truth working in him!, and the love of Christ constraining him, for he lives his live in truth and faith as if right before his Father, he want's to please his father and his God and dread to do anything that is not pleasing to his Lord, yet he also knows that the pleasing towards God was done by the Lord Jesus Christ for him that is a little worm saved by most amazing grace, this Christian does go trough his week thinking on God and on the things that's right according to the word of God and does try hard to arbhor that which is evil and cleave unto that which is good, though not to appear approved, he knows, for this is a work of the Spirit of all truth, he goes trough his week, Sonday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, O what blessed days of peace and joy is in his mind and in his heart, he is as if in a rapture of good judgments and of good works not to appear approved but serving fervently his Lord as he may of grace, overwhelmed by the love of God the Father, try as hard as he may to understand, just why our God would save such a wretch as he?, he does not dwell to long on this here thought, for if he does he finds himself looking at himself, Yes he finds himself now all consumed by is he good or right enough? and O the anguish he does go trough for this minute or even two; but God his son Lord Jesus Christ pulls him back ever faithfully to his love, and draws his eyes of off himself unto the saviour that is his only hope and cleaving fast he does do, and so he does continue reading, learning, experiencing love and truth judging himself trough the spirit, his mind is spiritual and nothing yes nothing can move him now for he is hid in Christ, he is at peace unspeakable and joy unreachable trough the flesh's vain pursuit, Thursday he gets a call, the guys who he thinks friends are going to a party this here saturday in the darkness that is called the night, O now his mind is starting to drift away again, a slight turn now is in him, then the friend add's to his tender mind: remember the game before, and the bbq after, there will be girls, and then the party, O now this mind of flesh is jumping for lust is born again, though he is made new, his peace in a flash is gone!, his joy is ruined!, and replaced by earthly pleasures of the mind, he knows!, Thursday is almost done he has some place left for the work of God for he does not forget the love of Christ, he goes to bed at night praying knowing not what to say for now his mind is almost filled with lustful ideas and of vain imagination of this here weekend that's to come....
Friday comes, up he is fast, head still filled and even more full of the weekend that's to come, without a prayer and without any thanks he leaves his home, now his God is gone and the weekend has taken his affections, and his lusts are sprung up inside of him; which team will win?, will he get to boast or will he have envy for his team? also the bbq thereafter will there be drink? will there be girls? will he look good enough to fleshly eyes and swell in pride?, then comes the party and the girls are very plenty, whom will his friends choose?, who will he get?, will he envy his friend for one or will he boast about the other?, and finally now the mind is swirled and drowned in darkness his God is long gone out of mind, "yet God's present in all the truth", his saviours love is long spent it seems, fornicate... fornication clogs his mind in an instant and there is no more place for his Lord his saviour and his King: Ye cannot serve two masters he remembers in an instant, and guilt and darkness comes all around him, the word of God has cut him!, O what will i do he ask himself?, he is at work this is yet friday and nothing has yet happened but; his mind is death already and his mind is darkness and full of vain deceit, he does not know how or what to think or pray while trying to justify his thoughts all by himself alone, when he tries to think of his God his mind becomes a fool and the deceitfullness of sin has taken hold of him, he is it that deceiveth himself!, O dear God he cries his affections is now in worldy things and his love is for the moment; then gone is his affection for the one who loved him first and gave himself for him, and the things in mind is now altogether carnal and full of emptiness, his mind is no more spiritual, he has died again!, he is dead!, "yet faithfully by God's love and word, saved it is he stay's for in Christ none is lost in the mind of a mercifull God our God", O for peace and joy to return he feels as dear Job has cried: O that i know where i might find him?
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Whether he had done the deeds or gone trough with his thoughts of vain and empty deceit, he will long for his God and the Lord Jesus Christ, will he then return to this here carnal thinking come the next? I doubt, but i do sorely say perhaps for the flesh is weak so so weak; and until that day he get's his new body from the Lord, yes untill that very day of Christ which he also cleaveth to, he will experience this death of carnal thinking, perhaps over and over again?, and O what dreaded thing the carnal mind is to him become, God his faithfull Father will draw him unto him, out of this world he will be begotten unto eternal righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit without this mind of carnal reason and very sin's deceitfullness, it will all be gone!, O how much he longs for that day, the day we shall see him as he is, and that without any sin!
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Dearest Christian friends he does not know how you all may experience but; he has found that when his mind is on the world and on it's things and busy with it's happenings there is only death and there is only sin!, there where iniquity abound our good Lord Holy Holy Holy cannot be:
Psa 5:4 For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
O what joy what peace does abound when once his mind is back on Christ and all the things of God, so then as such with very much longsuffering and grace his God ever faithfull above all draws away his affections from the world unto his God's own affection, certainly then as he has these experiences which are dreaded by his soul, he is drawn away in the most gracious and mercifully way by the longestsuffering of his good God from the things of the flesh unto the things of his God's Spirit.
Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
And for certain those who are his Majesty most high's does know through experience and by his Holy Spirit:
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
We do get entangled so so easily, we do get drawn away by our own lusts most definatly, but let us not despair :
Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
And we do know for a definite certainty:
Php 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Do not let the world steal our affections for in stern warning have we been told:
1Co 10:21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
And we do know :
Jas 4:4 ... that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Yes most definatly we can rejoice in the Lord for he is so sooo good; and does ever please his own good will which is the same, altogether lovely and full of goodness that is all trough Him.
If you happen to have an experience or experiences as this brother here is having, i think, do not despair for it is a work of God to draw away his children's affections from the world unto himself and his Holy One Jesus Christ our Lord.
It may be we are chastened, and we do know whom the Lord love those he does chasten and teach his blessed ways, this is cause for great rejoicing:
Gal 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
By experience it seems this brother has found that worldy mindedness is death most definatly and spiritual mindedness is life and peace indeed, let's seek to be spiritually minded always.
It's is no wonder God said to Israel:
Jos 22:5 But take diligent heed to do the commandment and the law, which Moses the servant of the LORD charged you, to love the LORD your God, and to walk in all his ways, and to keep his commandments, and to cleave unto him, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul.
We know we are not under the law of Moses; but under his good grace, but even under his grace, if there is not a whole of our all cleaving unto him, which is worked by his good grace, then surely there is no peace, no life, and no joy unspeakable.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
All glory to his majesty most high trough Jesus Christ our Lord his love to us forevermore.
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3/29/2010 7:51:38 PM
Topic:
Who Do You Find It Harder to Talk To?
MidActsDeb
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No Leaks 2 wrote:
Whew! man..... talk about hard to talk to? I have been e-mailing back and forth with a woman that claims to be a minister's wife, and BOY! she does NOT like the grace gospel!! She claims to be unaffiliated with any denomination, but claims water baptism for salvation.
She is 57, and her husband is 70, and she says he has been preaching for umpteen years, and she ......well, let's just say that she has called me many things, and thinks that I do not know God, and like so many others, says that Paul preached the same gospel and obeyed the same gospel as Peter. I have given her scriptures, and even gave her links to this website, as well as the Berean Bible Society's website, in hopes that she will at least check out what I am saying to her. (sigh)
What do you say to a minister's wife? She believes that she knows it all already.......
Hi, No Leaks 2,
I have been where you are many times. I used to write to every individual I could who had appeared on EWTN's "The Journey Home," where former Protestants told why they became Catholic. Some corresponded with me for months. One even referred me to another man, a Baptist pastor who was considering conversion to Catholicism, and we corresponded for a long time. I know how frustrating it can be. These people know how to use scripture against us, even Paul's scriptures!
Paul had some advice for handling these die-hards in his letter to Titus: "A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself." (Titus 3:10-11).
I finally threw up my hands and simply hoped and prayed that something I had pointed out to them about God's distinctions in his word would pop out at them from the word of God at some future time. You planted the seed, however unwelcome it was; now let God's word water it and go on to other, hopefully more fertile, ground. You can't win 'em all.
Proud of you for trying; it's what God desires. (1 Tim. 2:4).
MidActsDeb
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3/29/2010 5:29:13 PM
Topic:
Who Do You Find It Harder to Talk To?
No Leaks 2
Posts: 16
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Whew! man..... talk about hard to talk to? I have been e-mailing back and forth with a woman that claims to be a minister's wife, and BOY! she does NOT like the grace gospel!! She claims to be unaffiliated with any denomination, but claims water baptism for salvation.
She is 57, and her husband is 70, and she says he has been preaching for umpteen years, and she ......well, let's just say that she has called me many things, and thinks that I do not know God, and like so many others, says that Paul preached the same gospel and obeyed the same gospel as Peter. I have given her scriptures, and even gave her links to this website, as well as the Berean Bible Society's website, in hopes that she will at least check out what I am saying to her. (sigh)
What do you say to a minister's wife? She believes that she knows it all already.......
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3/17/2010 5:34:42 AM
Topic:
Gal. 2:7 what do you read
jannie
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Thanks all for you help. I appreciate it so much!
If you don't mind I have some other questions.
In Gal. 2:2 we read that Paul is in Jeruzalem and that he is sharing there the gospel that he is preaching among the gentiles.
So on that moment they knew the gospel.
What was the expectation from the apostles? ...that the Kingdom would start?
What was te expectation from Paul .... ?
Where the jews saved by grace the way we are or did they have to keep the law. I simply don't understand that those jews in Jeruzalem where zealous of the law. The way it is written sounds positive but when I read Galatians I see it as negative.
How long there was still difference between jew and gentile. Or perhaps i have to ask : when was the Olive tree cut of?
In His Grip
Jannie
edited by jannie on 3/17/2010
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3/17/2010 4:44:34 AM
Topic:
the apostles last
jannie
Posts: 4
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Thanks Chipper and No Leaks for your comments.
Jannie
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3/16/2010 7:09:18 PM
Topic:
the apostles last
No Leaks 2
Posts: 16
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Hi Jannie:
Although I agree with Chipper that we are NOT to elevate Paul, for even Paul himself says that he does NOT magnify himself, but rather his OFFICE.
Romans 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
You ARE reading it correctly, jannie. Paul WAS the last apostle, and is THE apostle of the Gentiles. I believe that the revelation of the mystery which was given to him closed out the progressive revelation from God, and completed the scriptures. Therefore, no more apostles would be needed, for we now have the completed word of God.
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